Hypocrites...

Justin Edwards wrote:

CORRECTED VERSION:

This morning on Bob Atchison's Alexander Palace Time Machine, I read:

Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty / Imperial Claimants/ Re: new member not sure he wants to be here.

A poster using the name of "BoneDaddy" said:

[Excerpts] "...I thought it was going to be a neat thing to join a disscusion board about russian revolution and the royal family. I new the topic of Anna Anderson Manahan would be discussed and hoped it would since i was friends with both jack and anna manahan. I grew up in the small town of scottsville 20 miles south of charlottesville va. Where there beloved fair veiw farm was. Many of times id give Jack a ride back and forth to the farm to feed his dogs. Jacks father and my father where friends also. John manahan was the dean for the university of virginia. Well anyway as i was saying i thought it would be fun to join and discuss the topic occasionally but it seems by what i have read by the administraion here. They have a low oppinion and tolerance to the subject and if thats the the case there is no need to discuss the fact that these were fine kind hearted folks, That truely believed that anna was the grand duchess. Dna or not, i still do as well. MATTHEW THACKER

And in another post Mr. Thacker writes: i did not come on this site to sway anyones opinion of the dna test. it is your choice to believe it or not to. just as it is mine to beleive the way i do about it. i just stated that i didnt believe the test, which doesnt mean im nuts, and it also doesnt mean i wanted to start an argument about it. i just came here to discuss jack and anna as i knew them and maybe take up for them a little since they have been portrayed so badly by so many. you would do the same for your hometown folks wouldnt you? it is implied by some here that you need professional help for believing anything other than the dna results. know im begining to see how jack and anna felt . and why anna didnt want people around her..."

Bob Atchison's Alexander Palace Time Machine Forum Administrator responded:

[Excerpts] "...You don't belong here because YOU want to impose your views on others (not "share them" as you claim) but do not want to be intellectually challenged about those views. This is indeed a place for challenging factual claims. If you want to be able to "share" thoughts without anyone offering up evidence or proof to the contrary, head on over to Blogger.com, LOTS of fiction over there offered up without evidence or challenge..."

Like others before him and after him, the renown author/historian Peter Kurth has done and continues to do is to correct the inaccuracies about someone he knew, that person being Anna Anderson a woman who the judicial system could not prove that she was or wasn’t Czar Nicholas II’s youngest daughter, Anastasia. Why I bother to bring up the Anna Anderson controversy is to illustrate apoint, Mr. Kurth knew firsthand Anna Anderson and considered her a friend, 'time and time" again just like Mr. Thacker he has stood up for that friendship but is called all sorts of nasty names for doing so. They even slammed poor Peter on the blog 'Oma Hamou Reality' --- that is their typical Modus of Operandi.

Both Mike Newson and I have defended someone we know and consider a friend, Oma Hamou by doing so, Mike has a defamation Blog written about him.

On July 6, 2007, I asked Sandman if he would post on his Blog the following:

[Excerpts] “…I can only reply that the unbelievably vociferous campaign against Oma Hamou, amounting in my view to persecution, began not with Bob Atchison’s claims she owed him money but when the Russians told Oma if he was a part of any project they would not enter into any contracts with her. This is how much they hate Bob Atchison and everything he stands for or represents to the world that he is thus, Oma tendered her resignation as Vice President of Bob’s web club, the Alexander Palace Association…I as others have intended only to correct what I regard as gross inaccuracies in Bob Atchison, Rob Moshein, Mike Pyles and now Marcus Demian’s statements about Oma Hamou - this is all I ever do when I post on these forums -- I let the nutters slide, and try to confine myself to correcting what I know to be errors. I find everything they say about Oma her past which resulted in her criminal convictions and those of us who support her to be both patronizing and factually mistaken…”

Personally, the statement published on Pallasart’s Alexander Palace Time Machine about Blogger.com by either Rob or was it Bob, is a smoke screen as they do the very thing they preach against. The Alexander Palace Time Machine web site Forum Administrator cites: "...If you want to be able to "share" thoughts without anyone offering up evidence or proof to the contrary, head on over to Blogger.com, LOTS of fiction over there offered up without evidence or challenge..."

Both Mike and I have successfully proven what Pallasart, Bob Atchison and Rob Moshein and their "friends" have published on the web about Oma Hamou is factually not true and we've produced substantial evidence in the form of actual court documents, police reports, phone records, etc. and unlike Bob's Team, the evidence we've put out there will withstand the scrutiny of any court.

Did you know back in May 2004, Bob Atchison called the Beverly Hills Police Department and attempted to file a criminal complaint against Oma for "Fraud" but was told by the police to basically get lost...he called more than 3 law enforcement agencies "prior" to him concocting the "murder for hire scheme" trying to do his best to have Oma arrested...But no one listened or believed him regardless his statements back then will be used against him when he's arrested :-)

Getting back on topic, on May 31, 2004 because no one in law enforcement believed he was telling the truth, Bob created a web site called Oma Hamou Report dot org on Tripod, Free Web Hosting and in the following month told the police in Los Angeles and Austin he created the site to warn people about Oma’s character. But on public record, in court documents and in his oral deposition during Oma’s lawsuit with him, he says he didn’t create it and shifted the blame on Rob.

In letters Bob wrote others including Peter Kurth, he claims he didn’t create the web site Oma Hamou Report yet a few days and weeks earlier he told the police he did, this is a fact contained in real police reports.

BOB ATCHISON'S PARTIAL STATEMENT TO THE LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT:

The cops didn’t lie they just wrote what Bob told them yet he swore "under oath" in a court deposition he didn’t know anything about the web site, Oma Hamou Report.

http://www.omahamou.com/PDF/Atchison11105.pdf


A long time ago, Bob published on his Russian history site that Oma was wanted as a fugitive from justice out of Wyoming all because he or maybe it was Rob, couldn’t interpret what the criminal court document actually said.

Pallasart's Oma Hamou Report published:

"...Hamou was also arrested again by the Los Angeles Police Department on August 1, 2000 as "A Felony Fugitive From Justice, from Park County Wyoming" in violation of California Penal Code 1551.1". Case number BA205463. She was tried in front of Judge Christina Hill, present in Court and represented by John Alan. She was released in the interest of Justice as Wyoming refused to extradite her at that time. The link is a copy of the publicly available Court record..."

Their conclusions to what the document actually meant was false and has been pointed out to them by the police, attorneys representing Oma Hamou, by Mike and I and even Oma herself who told them what they published wasn't true. [http://www.omahamou.com/PDF/OmaHamouLetterBobAtchison81306.pdf ] One of Oma's attorney, Dave Slater told Bob the Police in Wyoming told him Oma wasn't a fugitive from justice and they didn't have a warrant for arrest but it didn't matter to them what the attorney said, because Pallasart went ahead and left its statement on the web, on Bob's Alexander Palace Time Machine web site that said, Oma Hamou was a fugitive out of the state of Wyoming.

Additionally, during the last skirmish in Oma's prior lawsuit with these folks, Bob was unable to successfully prove the police in Wyoming had even told him this...Go figure!

Pallasart's Oma Hamou Report published this statement: "...Hamou admits committing these felony crimes. Her website quotes her:"I plead guilty because I was guilty". She states the she was justified in committing six felony crimes in order to escape an "abusive" husband, Her own words: "From October 1990 until April 1991, I was on the run from my husband, traveling from State to State, and I wrote checks that bounced in 3 different states." Yet, when one reads Offense 1 above from Montana, the offense date is October 26, 1992, a full 18 months after Hamou claims to have stopped "running" and 3 months after her divorce. Hamou also claims that these 3 Felony convictions over TWO YEARS all arise from "one bad check". Hamou also NOW claims she "left" her husband on 12/31/2000. Which is correct, October or December? Of this same period, the brief marriage to Marcus Demian, Hamou publicly states: "During this marriage we had money, property, " and "When we finally divorced, we owned a successful restaurant in Southern California, real estate." California property tax records, available online to anyone (lexis.com, homeinfomax.com or knowx.com) show no records to substantiate this claim. Marcus Demian and his wife (claimed as a "direct descendant of Sitting Bull"??) opened "Buffalo Joe's" in San Diego in May 1992, fifteen months AFTER Hamou now says she had left him..."

They have stuck to this same story for seven years...

What does this say about their ability as a Historian and as a skilled attorney...I know what it tells me...

http://alexanderpalaceobsession.blogspot.com/2006/10/bob-atchisons-friend-man-going-by-web.html

When Oma’s ex-husband, Marcus Demian came back into her life he told her these two told him she hired someone to kill Bob...the facts show Bob/Rob are lying liars. Yes, in June 2004, Bob filed a criminal complaint with the FBI, Homeland Security, US Marshalls, the Los Angeles Police Department and others about this ---luckily the police are smarter than what Bob/Rob give them credit for. All of the various law enforcement agencies thouroughly investigated Bob's complaint and reviewed Bob’s phone records, the phone records of the alleged hit man, and the emails between the alleged hit man, the alleged hitman's wife, Bob Atchison and Rob Moshein and investigated all of the parties involved and determined Bob was lying about the entire matter, case closed.

http://alexanderpalaceobsession.blogspot.com/2006/12/bob-atchisons-plots-against-oma-hamou.html & http://alexanderpalaceobsession.blogspot.com/2007/05/atchisonmoshein-claims-hamou-hired.html & http://alexanderpalaceobsession.blogspot.com/2006/12/found-this-according-to-mike-newson.html

Again I ask, why is it that trained lawyers and historical researchers can not read legal documents properly, get their conclusions wrong when they do, miss read or incompletely read documents and report that as fact when the rest of the document goes on to say that their conclusions were false? After all the truth, as has been stated by not only Oma but detailed by many of her defenders about Oma’s past is horrific and degrading enough, why is it that after being told time, after time, after time that what they said was false and degrading and libelous, and that “here is the truth” do they stick with the same story ever since day one and only change it to add in more dirt…

Many people have asked me why Oma's attorney didn't bring Rob and Pallasart up on Contempt charges for violating a court order back in 2005?

First, this was going to happen as many people, not just one person, sent us Private Messages sent to them by Bob/Rob that showed Rob doing specific things he was told by the court not to do.

Second, at the same time Rob & Pallasart "also" left altered images of Oma online from their OmaHamouReport website – when Dave Slater, Oma’s attorney complained about this, Rob attempted to snowball him by shifting the blame onto his web host provider explaining he personally was unable to remove the images offline. Oma’s attorney, Dave Slater hired a computer forensic company who do nothing but prove people are lying when it comes to statements such as Rob's and other things relating to computers.


When this was pointed out to Rob, like Bob, he decided it was in his best interest to settle the lawsuit and go on with his life – thus the proposed settlement agreement/statement and permanent restraining order. But as fate would have it, Oma’s new attorneys over at Foster, Malich & Blair withdrew from the case in August 2005 which basically put Bob/Rob back in the driver’s seat -- they were now in control and they showed no mercy.

http://www.omahamou.com/pdf/Plaintiff_s_Reurged_Motion_for_Continuance.pdf

Marcus Demian told Oma that Bob/Rob are behind the new blog about her and while we all know Mr. Demian does have a tendency to lie when it comes to his ex-wife, in this instance, I believe he is telling the truth based upon the flurry of emails sent to and from between, Demian, Bob Atchison, Rob Moshein and "others" connected to Pallasart. As the folks over on that other blog, Oma Hamou Reality like to say, given their paranoia and false premise on their identity and association with Bob Atchison and his Alexander Palace Time Machine web site I suggest you take the rest of their statements with the same required truckload of salt.

So when Pallasart's Alexander Palace Time Machine Forum Administrator says, "...you want to be able to "share" thoughts without anyone offering up evidence or proof to the contrary, head on over to Blogger.com, LOTS of fiction over there offered up without evidence or challenge..." all I have to say is this, the Forum Administrator of the Alexander Palace Time machine web site and Bob Atchison are the world's BIGGEST hypocrites!

Hypocrisy is the act of pretending to have beliefs, virtues and feelings that one does not truly possess. The word derives from the late Latin hypocrisis and Greek hupokrisis both meaning play-acting or pretence. The word is arguably derived from hypo- meaning small, + krinein meaning to decide/to dispute. A classic example of a hypocritical act is to denounce another for carrying out some action whilst carrying out the same action oneself. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrites

Lastly, the criminal aspect of all this with regards to Bob Atchison's Romanov Cult is this: it is a crime to stalk, harass, con people out of their money, threaten, file false police reports, forge documents, evade paying taxes, conspire to harm someone and all sorts of other things as Bob and his little gang have done against Oma Hamou. Their attacks on Oma just didn't happen over night, it has been a concerted effort going on for more than six years and no matter how much Rob/Bob wants to gloss over things and pretend they are telling the truth, they aren’t.

Point blank, Bob Atchison and Rob Moshein are not the beacon of truth when it comes to Oma Hamou or for that matter Bob's claims that he did so much for the Alexander Palace, he didn't ....I guess that’s why the police don’t really care to talk with either Bob/Rob because the evidence against them is overwhelming and until these two are arrested we all sit back and wait…

http://alexanderpalaceobsession.blogspot.com/2007/07/just-some-random-thoughts-having.html

P.S. Rob like usual you missed the point, Mr. Thacker was defending his friends, Anna Anderson and her husband who he knew as friends kinda like what Peter Kurth has been doing for all these years. Regardless of the DNA results, Anna Anderson and her husbad were Peter's friends and because of that friendship they have been ridiculed, libeled and defamed on the Alexander Palace Time Machine web site and elsewhere -- Mike and I have also been defending our friend against Bob and your gang of web thugs over on your Alexander Palace Time Machine web site's about Oma going on 7 years -- 7 years --- your lies destroy people!