Mike Newson view point...

I had some time and thought this might be as good a spot as any to reflect on a few things.

Over all I have seen a trend in those who have paid attention to this ongoing verbal war, with all of its thrusts of attack and those of defense, in that eventually when they are exposed to a adequate dose of reality they do see the truth of Oma’s position and fall away from Bob/Rob point of view. And speaking of defense, one has to realize that defense is not just correcting the false or misleading statements of those attacking Oma (Bob/Rob, et al.) something that has had all but insignificant effectiveness in the past, but also remember that a good defense is sometime a offence, that is one has to show who is doing the attacking, why they attack (something that is still a very murky subject to me), and how reliable of a source are they?

When you find that the attacking side is doing basically everything that they claim that Oma is doing wrong and yet they see no wrong in their own actions it must lead one to wonder and question the core character of these people. When you see them come down on Oma for a single minor error in recollection as if they had won the war, yet while she admitted to the error, they still in the face of massive documentation showing that what they claim is not the truth, and in fact that their story it is libelous and hateful, (a true hate crime) they refuse to alter their course. And by corollary the fact that Oma has not only admitted when she made mistakes but also corrected their story about her, even to the point of adding on things that they say make her this “devil” incarnate, should go to show her basic underlying core of being. And to be honest the point of view of the two courses of action should force one to evaluate the basic story of each side in the light of each sides own action.

For me the whole question of is Oma telling the truth or is Rob/Bob (They or them is how I usually put it as in all reality one is the other, and the other is the one) is summarized by the courts statement of:

"The court finds and concludes that third party plaintiffs have shown a likelihood of success on the merits of this cause, that a temporary injunction is necessary to prevent harm to Ms. Hamou. That unless injunction lies, third party plaintiffs (ed.: Oma, et. al.) will be without any adequate remedy at law, in that no amount of damages will be able to repair the loss of reputation to the parties.”

The point is very simply that an objective third party looked at the evidence and declared that what “They” were doing was wrong. The clincher for me is that not only in the face of that reprimand did they continue do the same things, (as if they were above the law), but they expanded their reach and add on to it not only in breadth but scope when they included me in a false and misleading diatribe, and then we saw how they attacked others like Penny, and Peter among others in a similar manner. And when you look at it in this light, one is forced to consider that Oma is not a exception to “their” basic core, but instead is a key example of who they really are at heart.

Frank said that he made up his own mind, that HE was above being manipulated by propaganda techniques wielded by those attacking Oma. And indeed “they” are masters of these techniques. If you will but objectively study what they say and do you will discover this. However the point is that we all are swayed everyday by others word and thoughts, advertising is prime example. We are fed information, some may or may not be true, but in general it takes way to much effort to discover for yourself is it or isn’t it true. A principle used extensively by the propaganda technique called the “Big Lie.” So often we chose what to believe on the strength of our own weaknesses, or the other sides perceived strength. One is way more likely to believe ones friends (or perceived friends --- if you have the time, do a search on sociopaths and their methods and techniques and see if you do not see a close relationship between what we have seen from “them” and these methods and or symptoms of this social disorder…) Especially notice the two sides, the oh so nice, bask in the warm glow of their “friendship” side and the “green monster” side that only the singled out victim sees. Until the victim speaks up and then those who are on the “friend” side can not reconcile the two sides of the attacker, the one they see and the one the victim sees, and all to often they chose what they see without doing the effort to discover the reality and remain on the friend side, until they do something to put them on the other side and they see the “green monster” for themselves, but by then it is too late. Also notice how those affected by this disorder manipulate others into being the one who attacks, so that they sit alone in victim-hood engendering pity from all that can be drawn into the net.

I could go on for pages about the propaganda techniques used to manipulate those who “they” hope to place under “their” sway, and about the methods that a sociopath uses compared with what we have experienced in the attacks on Oma and even to a lesser (although equally painful) extent, myself. But I have done so for many pages in the past and if you are honest with yourself and wonder just which side is doing what, then I leave it to you to verify the facts, and the methods and make up your own mind as to the truth of the various positions.

However, a few simple examples do stand out that might insert the merest of cracks in (for those on the Oma is the devil side of the war, and if you do not think this is a religious issue, then ponder the fact that Bob was told to bring Oma down in a vision…) … anyway, continuing on with the main thought see if the following example does not cause the merest of cracks in your preconceived notions about the intrinsic believability of Bob and to a lesser extent his main disciple Rob. The “et. al.” are the lesser disciples and members of Bob’s flock of believers. (It does not hurt to read up on Cult methods of control either along with sociopaths and propaganda techniques. It never hurts to understand how others can control your mind, while leaving you thinking that you have control of your thoughts. And as a corollary to this, someone who is attempting to control your thoughts does not want to you understand the techniques used. …think about it….)

The one example currently under discussion and thus with the most recently posted evidence is the concept of who is behind all the Hate Oma websites and Blogs? And to be honest it does not really matter if it is Rob/Bob personally or one of their converts. In fact the presence of people like Frank make even stronger the case for Oma and against “them.” It matters not who is the “real” person behind the thoughts, is it Rob? Bob? Mike Pyles? --- or any of the others, who in the past, have assisted Bob in his undertaking to bring Oma down. It matters only that they all speak with one voice, that of Bob’s. When you traverse the history of this conflict you will find at the beginning Bob created the first Hate Oma site on his own site, the Alexander Palace Time Machine, and from there the others have been spun, and typically not virally as one would expect but serially one after another. (The serial nature of the attacks tend to support the hypothesis that one person is ultimately behind this.) From free web host to free web host, each one being shut down as the owners of the host found that indeed the message was one that violated their terms of service as being a message of hate, and yet a steady progression of these Hate-Oma, Oma is the Devil, Oma must be exposed to the world, sites exist. One after an other was shut down followed by the same basic content in a new site. Each one, after the first, all decried that Bob, and by implication Rob as we have continually lumped Bob’s main disciple Rob into Rob/Bob or “Them,” had nothing to do with the current Hate-Oma site. It was so gratifying to find eventually that one of the sites kept the sign up record which proved that Palasart (Bob’s company of which Rob was a part of at a one point in time, Go look at the archive.org records, the proof is there. Not to mention that they both live in the same house…) Anyway, Palasart was the assigned the permanent IP that was used to create the account. So here was proof that although they said that they were not Rob or Bob, yet the evidence said otherwise. So which one lied, the one that said they had nothing to do with these sites, or the hard documentation that they lied, that Palasart/Rob/Bob was indeed the agent behind the sites? This site was shut down as all the other before them, and then we found the next in the series to be one with a “paid” hosting service that hid behind a owner that could not, in violation of ICAN rules, be found, and the domain name was protected by the newly discovered “privacy registration” again they proclaimed that this was some one other than Rob or Bob, they again hid and proclaimed that all they did was to protect the world against Oma, that the world must know what a evil person she was, just look at all that she had done! And again the mixture of truth leading to false or misleading conclusions existed. Eventually the owner of the hosting company had to quit, and the new owner could be contacted, one thing lead to another and as the ownership of the domain name was under the new owner, we offered to buy it, instead we find that ROB popped up as the owner, and at around the same time, BOB popped up as claiming owner ship of it to the police. Which was the true owner? I submit that it is Rob "and" Bob, or Bob and Rob, sometimes I am unsure as to the true order, as they are one and the same in heart, mind and action. Is it by Bob’s decree that his disciple acts, or does Rob do what he does from some other reason? The main point is that that site had stated categorically that “They” (Rob/Bob/Palasart) were not involved in any way, yet it turned out to be a blatant lie. A lie that lead the courts to say, "The court finds and concludes that third party plaintiffs have shown a likelihood of success on the merits of this cause, that a temporary injunction is necessary to prevent harm to Ms. Hamou. That unless injunction lies, third party plaintiffs (ed.: Oma, et. al.) will be without any adequate remedy at law, in that no amount of damages will be able to repair the loss of reputation to the parties.” No matter how one squirms around the facts, the fact still remains the court found reason to believe that Rob, and by extension - Bob, libeled Oma. That is they lied! They lied not only about who was behind the site, but they lied about Oma.

Now we have the next in the series --- a blog. A blog which carries on the exact same content and the exact same declaration that Bob/Bob et. al. are not behind it. A belief that strains the imagination based on the whole of the past history. Yet if indeed it was some old, or new disciple, then this actually makes stronger Oma’s position that she is indeed in danger from the source, Bob, and of course his disciple Rob --- as one is the right hand of the other.

There are many more examples that can be found. such as take for comparison many of Bob's written sworn to be true statements and his Verbal sworn to be true statements to support the position that they do not and can not tell the truth about Oma, --- remember that Bob was told in a vision to take her down, and it appears that ends justify the means in their minds. Still the main point of all this is that the merest crack of doubt as to the veracity and intent of Bob/Rob should exist. Not only did they lie about who was behind the site, but they continued on in the attack in the face of the courts opinion of their actions and the validity of their accusations.

Think about it….

Source: OmaHamou.com/oma